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Re: tics

Postby Sophist on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:19 pm

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renaeden wrote:I got tics mixed up with stims before. But the difference between twitches and tics seem very clear to me. Like Sophist said, twitches are completely involuntary.

Tics you can put off and the urge to do them builds up and up to overwhelming point and then tics abound!


I don't understand this...are you saying that someone who is constantly blinking his eye(s) or raising eyebrows, that he can actually stop or increase it if he wants to??


The muscle spasms you're having, whether due to seizure activity or not, are involuntary. You can't stop a muscle spasm midway. Although with some of the methods I mentioned above (e.g., distracting yourself, not focusing on the muscle twitches, etc.) can help reduce the amount of time they continue and eventually could reduce them overall.

A "tic"-- as in tics which are related to Tic Disorders, like Tourette's Syndrome-- are different from a muscle spasm. They tend to be described as overwhelming urges to do things; sometimes these are simple motor mannerisms, sometimes they are more complicated, sometimes they are an urge to say a particular word or words (like the cursing spirited has mentioned many times). So even though it's very difficult to suppress a tic, it's still possible and therefore considered partially "voluntary". This is not a "tic" as in the way you've originally used it in your first post of the thread. The type of tic you're talking about is a muscle spasm or jerk. And renaeden's using the term tic in the way I've used it here; not as a muscle spasm.
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Re: tics

Postby Tom34 on Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:25 am

twitch can't be stopped no matter what - tic is like a heroin addict stopping - you can stop in theory, but its extremly difficult and you probably won't.
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Re: tics

Postby renaeden on Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:39 am

^Do you have tics?

Mine are worst at night before I go to bed.
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Re: tics

Postby Tom34 on Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:10 pm

Yes, they were much worse as a child, now they only really happen when i am very tired, stressed. I am now 26. video games made them worse (the master system of the time)
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Re: tics

Postby Sophist on Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:06 pm

My eye tic happens when I get nervous, yeah.
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Re: tics

Postby renaeden on Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:49 am

Sophist wrote:My eye tic happens when I get nervous, yeah.
Can you stop it when you really try to?
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Re: tics

Postby Sophist on Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:37 pm

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Sophist wrote:My eye tic happens when I get nervous, yeah.
Can you stop it when you really try to?


Not immediately. I can try to concentrate less on whatever's making me anxious and also to try to ignore the tic (the more I attend to it, the more it happens). But it's mainly stuff I can do to make it less likely I'll keep ticking rather than stop it directly.
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Re: tics

Postby renaeden on Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:13 am

Maybe it is half a twitch - half a tic?

I can stop any of my tics at will but then the urge builds up and up and I feel if I don't tic I will explode or something. Like trying to stop a cough when you really need to. Sort of.
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Re: tics

Postby Sophist on Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:47 pm

renaeden wrote:Maybe it is half a twitch - half a tic?

I can stop any of my tics at will but then the urge builds up and up and I feel if I don't tic I will explode or something. Like trying to stop a cough when you really need to. Sort of.


There definitely seems to be a gray area between a twitch and a tic. It does feel kind of in the middle sometimes. Especially the first couple of tics. Sometimes, they'll start happening before I even realize it.
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Re: tics

Postby renaeden on Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:48 am

That would be frustrating. Is it visible to others? I have had an eye twitch that wasn't visible to anyone else but I sure did get annoyed by it, it felt like it would be very apparent.

Maybe there is a grey area between tics and stims too.
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Re: tics

Postby Sophist on Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:50 pm

I have never had anyone comment on it. And for the most part, the tic is rather limited. It doesn't keep happening over and over so that it looks like I'm constantly squinting/blinking. Like I'll think of something anxiety provoking (for instance, picturing myself falling down a flight of stairs-- one of my phobias-- can get me to do it every time) and it'll happen a couple times, then subside a bit.

It's a newer tic. I only developed it within the last couple of years. My greatest tic for a long time was throat clearing. Apparently my father used to do that too. It drove my mother nuts, heh.

I think twitches, tics, and stims are all very highly related with a lot of gray area in between. Sometimes I think one of the only differences between them is really one of severity, e.g., how automatic the response is.
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