AANE art show over

[hesperus]

Quoting Belfast:

"symmetrical abstract organic stylized handmade doodled designs"...

Yep, I would go with mandala.

Hesperus quote:

http://www.aimath.org/E8/images/e8plane2a.jpg

Absolute bliss!

Sorry I'm a bit late in this response (didn't have internet access for a couple of days), but I wanted to mention how the diagram is a mere shadow (being only two-dimensional) of the actual plot (which is multi-dimensional).

[renaeden]

The good thing about art is that the observer is free to make up their own mind about it?

It just seems that saying "it's up to you (observer of art) to figure out some meaning in this" has become a stereotype in itself. I say that NOT as criticism of your suggestion-only that I feel the "public" demands (wants, needs, craves, hungers for) more than that. As if that were part of the unspoken "deal" (that I'm supposed to provide "backstory" or "insight") for their time, interest, attention or money.

I never knew this. I don't know much about these stereotypes or that they even started in the first place, heh.

I don't much about WordPress other than that I've bookmarked the blog of someone with ASD there. Given that I want to post images, is "wordpress" appropriate ? Am I being too literal ? The possibilities (for where & how to pick a place to post my pictures) overwhelm me. Am unsure about how to troubleshoot, figure out which sort (or "location") of site would work best for me.

Yes Wordpress can be used for art. I know GA took a theme from Wordpress and made his own sci-fi arty main page. http://www.galileoace.com
I have also have a Wordpress theme for my blog page but I modified it so much that it looks nothing like the original product.

I get a little overwhelmed with this sort of thing too. I wish I could make the ultimate suggestion that would help you enormously on this, but I just don't know enough, sorry.

[Belfast]

It just seems that saying "it's up to you (observer of art) to figure out some meaning in this" has become a stereotype in itself. I say that NOT as criticism of your suggestion-only that I feel the "public" demands (wants, needs, craves, hungers for) more than that. As if that were part of the unspoken "deal" (that I'm supposed to provide "backstory" or "insight") for their time, interest, attention or money.

I never knew this. I don't know much about these stereotypes or that they even started in the first place, heh.

I could be wrong-this is just the sense I got.

Yes Wordpress can be used for art. I know GA took a theme from Wordpress and made his own sci-fi arty main page. http://www.galileoace.com
I have also have a Wordpress theme for my blog page but I modified it so much that it looks nothing like the original product.

I get a little overwhelmed with this sort of thing too. I wish I could make the ultimate suggestion that would help you enormously on this, but I just don't know enough, sorry.

That's okay, thank you for the info. I don't mean to be too demanding in asking so many questions. I do trust suggestions from folks here more than I'd take the word of some complete stranger that I know absolutely nothing about (everybody else online that I'm not even remotely familiar with). I put more stock in reputation for credibility & sincerity of people here on Gestalt, compared with spammy scammy folks (of which there are oodles).

[adhocisadirtyword]

Belfast, I wrote this on the other thread but am re-posting here in regards to adhoc's request for a commission piece:

Or, Belfast, if you don't feel like you could give/sell a piece (I know you've mentioned this on the other thread), maybe you'd consider having it scanned like at Kinko's or something and making a limited number of prints and then sell the prints. You could keep the original and sell the limited edition prints.

I have been thinking about this with my own work and think it would be a good compromise between my difficulty in giving/selling my art but actually letting other people have it.

I believe Kinko's costs about $7.95 per square foot for the lowest grade paper and iirc can do up to 36ft in height and width. You might consider adding that into the price if you choose to do it this way.

You have to be careful about ensuring that the person buying it recognizes they are getting a print. A lot of people would pay more for an original, and perhaps not as much for a print.

You can always sell as many prints as you want (unless you have a limited edition), but it's just important to note.

[Belfast]

From the thread with my art in it:

Ooooh mandalas. I want to see more if that's alright. I like to look at them because there are so many intricate bits within the whole drawing.

Your enthusiasm is appreciated, I feel less afraid to show my designs here (than IRL, offline, to general public).
4 more freshly posted there...

Descriptions of next 4 posted images.
When referring to "sides", I mean points of symmetry.
I don't title them, so instead I just mention features.

3rd: (in entire thread): double (9-sided) mandala, colored pencils on matte board, 1996
4th: small single (4-sided) mandala: markers on paper, 1996
5th: maze, colored pencil on matte board, 1996
6th: dots, ink on paper, 2005.

Have many pieces that haven't yet been scanned in, that's part of why so many of these are decade old.

Belfast, I wrote this on the other thread but am re-posting here in regards to adhoc's request for a commission piece:

Or, Belfast, if you don't feel like you could give/sell a piece (I know you've mentioned this on the other thread), maybe you'd consider having it scanned like at Kinko's or something and making a limited number of prints and then sell the prints. You could keep the original and sell the limited edition prints.

I have been thinking about this with my own work and think it would be a good compromise between my difficulty in giving/selling my art but actually letting other people have it.

You have to be careful about ensuring that the person buying it recognizes they are getting a print. A lot of people would pay more for an original, and perhaps not as much for a print.

You can always sell as many prints as you want (unless you have a limited edition), but it's just important to note.

I'm disinclined to go through complicated process of making prints, though I recognize the intent of suggesting it. If I have a good color copy am less opposed to letting the original go (selling it). Simplicity (to extent it's possible/practical) is paramount in order for me to get something accomplished-additional steps are obstacles that can derail the entire "train" of action.

[beware_the_sluagh]

I love the dot ones posted in the other thread The shading done with the dots is really cool.

[Belfast]

I love the dot ones posted in the other thread :D The shading done with the dots is really cool.

Thank you for commenting.
The 2nd & the 6th ones.
#2. 110407 mandala inkbrd
#6. 032805 inkppr, off-center dots

They both took a long time to complete, to get the darkness. Paper tends to distort & warp, the more ink one applies. That's one reason I got into using the boards more often-since they're sturdier. Of course, finer-grained dots (depending on tool one uses, whether pen (in these cases) or marker (fine or broad point tip) are slower-going at filling in white space.
Was that boring practical info ?

Haven't much to say about the content of the pictures-would say the same thing about each of them. They're symbolic of nothing more than what looks pretty to me, pleases my "eye", satisfies my aesthetic/visual sense. But of course anyone can see anything in them that they wish, so long as they don't try to convince me that this or that is inherent to the piece-suppose they're like "Rorshach inkblots" in that way.

[Sophist]

Belfast, is there a particular type of paper you like to get? Is it just regular paper or do you go to an art store or something?

[Belfast]

Belfast, is there a particular type of paper you like to get? Is it just regular paper or do you go to an art store or something?

It depends (doesn't everything ?)...

Way back, when I was in colored pencils mode-I'd get textured snooty paper at college (yeah, that's how long ago it was !) art store. The one name I recall (because it's imprinted/embossed/watermarked into the huge sheet) is Canson Mi-Tientes. It was the fo-shizzle ! Very "rich" and "lush" paper (hope you understand, it's hard to describe tactile/visual features). I'd cut it to whatever size I could get a square shape, so long as it wasn't too big to fit on my working surface. Black paper looked the best, esp. with those light-colored (pale yellow, pastel shades, or white) pencils I never got to use otherwise, bcause they don't show up against white paper.

Nowadays, with the ink dot drawings-I just use plain old storebrand copy paper-though it's the thicker/heavier type (what I use for printing out images or color from the computer), rather than the thinner, lightweight kind which I use for general-purpose printing out of text.

The matte/mat board is brand/kind I don't even know. It came (free) in big batch from a friend of a friend, who had bunch of "middles" left over from his framing business. Having a big pile of blank boards sorta' gave me license (or inspired me) to "go to town" & do a lot of new pieces. Of course, I'd also recently bought over $100 worth of new markers, too-and those were just the right thing for the "boards", in terms of "compatibility" between 'that which one draws with' & 'that which one draws on'.

I try to be more "opportunistic"-using what's available, instead of seeking out special (and pricey) materials (to draw on)-at least in the areas where it doesn't much matter. When it comes to pens, markers, or colored pencils, I'm particular/choosy.

[Sophist]

The regular paper is acid-free right? Otherwise the work will degrade over time.

[adhocisadirtyword]

Comments from the Belfast art thread (related to the three most recent pictures posted):

Wow. Especially like the top two of the previous post.

I particularly like the 'eye' one at the bottom

[Belfast]

Comments from the Belfast art thread (related to the three most recent pictures posted):

Wow. Especially like the top two of the previous post.

I particularly like the 'eye' one at the bottom :D

Thanks-to all 3 of you.
These, with the ink (pen) dots on paper or board are rarest (have done the fewest of them compared to other media or styles) type of drawings I make, because they're so time-consuming, and wear out my wrist & fingers. The spotty effect does look cool, once I've finished a piece.

Of the 3 b&w ones adhoc last posted on my behalf:
Top one was sold at the AANE art show, to curator/organizer of exhibit.
Bottom one was also at the art show, am waiting to get it back from there.
Middle one I drew more recently, so hasn't been displayed anywhere yet-except here.

Eyes are one of my repeating "motifs" that don't "symbolize" anything, they just appeal to me aesthetically, as shape/form to stylize & abstractify. Consider self a "recombiner", since I draw pretty much same things over & over, but with different proportions, ratios, proximities, and techniques-all variations on visual theme.

[renaeden]

I like the ones I wrote of in the other thread because there is so much to look at, every time I think I know it, there is another small part that is new. It's very pleasing.

[Belfast]

The regular paper is acid-free right? Otherwise the work will degrade over time.

Had it in my head that I'd answered-since I remember going to look at packaging on outside of copy paper-guess I didn't make it back to posting this. Well, my mind has been "off' lately.
Anyway, yes-it is "acid-fre" paper.

I like the ones I wrote of in the other thread because there is so much to look at, every time I think I know it, there is another small part that is new. It's very pleasing.

Certain textural pieces have important property/feature (to my view): self-similarity, like fractals (tree roots & branches, human circulatory vasculature). Take small piece from any part of drawing & it resembles (in some way) the larger "whole" from which it was taken. Resemblence to itself across scales of magnitude-that "property".
Doesn't apply to all of my works, but it's major visual/aesthetic obsession that shows up in a segment of them.
I enjoy having/creating things that "keep on giving"-as in, looking different each time one sees it (maybe that's too extreme way to describe). Things in which one can focus on particular areas & stay interested in looking at repeatedly over time. Tough to put into words-"staying power" ? Anyway, thanks-glad you like.

(from "Art by Belfast" thread)

I still like pretty much all the ones made out of dots. I like the effect, I just like dots.

Am sending to adhoc (for posting on my behalf) pieces that are made with marker:
both fine pointed dotted ones & broad-tipped (side of marker, which has fat & thin pointed ends) "blocks"-look like tiles.
Wonder what you'll think of them-they're easier to make (relatively more "instant gratification"-they only take one day to start & finish) than the ones done in pen ink.

[renaeden]

I enjoy having/creating things that "keep on giving"-as in, looking different each time one sees it (maybe that's too extreme way to describe). Things in which one can focus on particular areas & stay interested in looking at repeatedly over time. Tough to put into words-"staying power" ?

Yes - that is exactly what I mean, you have it right.